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Post by The Moderator on Nov 29, 2008 13:34:59 GMT
as promised 40'000 years ago by me, our guitar rig Bank. These are the sounds we use most often. some pathces like the 'distorted lead/solo' are used on different projects by turning the enclosed effects on and off. Have fun! www.megaupload.com/?d=FS0L4EB6 |
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Post by Tyranor on Nov 29, 2008 20:03:13 GMT
Oh, thanks. At last you fullfiled this promise  I'm looking into it right now and this looks like solid set-up. The one I made for myself is far more simple. Did you apply that distortion to clean guitar when you were recording? |
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Post by The Moderator on Nov 30, 2008 16:42:30 GMT
yes, our guitars go direct into our sound card via a Hi-Z input. All distortion and effects are applied with guitar rig as a track insert effect. Why not post a link to your own banks. im thinking of putting our DFHS and EZ drummer patches up as well.
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Post by Tyranor on Dec 3, 2008 8:49:15 GMT
Well the bank I made for myself is applied to specifically equalized and already distorted guitar so GR2 does mere half of the job actually. I use it just to amplify and shape the raw sound of the distortion  Also I still looking forwards to improve it. I asked this before in another section but it is not only me who curious what kind of distortion/processor you used on the past albums. I heard/red some people were complaining about EZD and DFHS for sounding to "plastic" or something like that and pointing Addictive Drums as the alternative though I find DFHS really suitable for my goals. |
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Post by The Moderator on Dec 6, 2008 0:38:00 GMT
thats a cool way of using and i have done that myself but find using it to full work the sound from a clean signla more convenient for my approach, there is no right or wrong just what works for you.
riiiiight
the demo and ichneumon where a crappy Zoom pedal into an old cheap bass amp miced with a terrible fake shure sm58....which was taped to a mesuring jug and a bongo.....
the EP was done with (if memory serves) a digitech metal zone into a digitech rp7 (for basic amp modeling) and the im sure corridords was doen that way as well. Urfe was done with GT, the bass was pretty much always direct line though it may have been miced on the demo.
as regards EZ and DFH, its always good to remember that like GT these are just tools its what the user does with them that produces the end result!
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Post by Tyranor on May 10, 2009 9:41:25 GMT
Say, do you guys apply mulltiband compressing to guitars? If so, then before or after guitar rig? By the way your set-up helped and still helps me a lot to build my own. I'm taking a lot of hints from it.
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Post by The Moderator on May 10, 2009 13:50:49 GMT
i dont really use mulitband comp on individual instruments, more as a mastering tool but thats not to say you cant. Infact i read an article with Andy Sneap where he talks about using multiband comp to control the lows and extreme highs of distorted guitars.
personal i put and eq ect after guitar rig in the FX chain, remember that the output for GR is essentially what you would get from a mic'd up guitar amp so treat it the same. As always there are no hard and fast rules for mixing so try different things and see what you like.
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Post by Tyranor on Jul 28, 2009 8:40:31 GMT
I was wandering how you actually managed to sound guitar rig so well with clean guitars as you said because I tried do the same for the sake of experiment with those presets and result was really poor. Does high-Z input play a very important role in this matter or is there something else? I personally use PreSonus FireStudio Project recording system and recently got SansAmp PSA-1 preamp and i'm not sure if any them have high-Z input.
A bit of topic but i'd like to know something about mics. Do you use dynamic or condenser mics? For example i'm pretty sure that on Physical's you've used dynamic (and what kind of presets allowed you to make it so distant and so damn haunting. I tried to get similar effect but no luck). I'm really curious...
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Post by VonMimus on Jul 28, 2009 11:11:50 GMT
I have the PSA-1, and yes, it has Hi-Z input, that's a preamp! The Firestudio Project does have two of them, my guess would be the two on the left. But if you plug your guitar in your PSA first, that's no use: the output of the PSA is a line level, it does not have the same impedance (that's the important part of the different "levels" used in audio). I have tested myself to use the PSA for distorsion and Guitar Rig for cabinet simulation, never got a good sound. NEVER. That's how far i can help you!
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Post by VonMimus on Jul 30, 2009 23:24:51 GMT
My bad, if you have Guitar Rig 3, i just got a nice sound with the Orange amp...
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Post by Tyranor on Aug 6, 2009 19:46:05 GMT
Thanks for the tips. I have Guitar Rig 2 actually. Yeah, two first inputs of PreSonus are of high Z input right but to get high output impedance I guess one needs that DI box thingy. I'm not sure.
I still would like to know how Brooke managed that...
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Post by VonMimus on Aug 10, 2009 16:16:28 GMT
Why would you need hi-Z outputs? Your hi-Z inputs can take line levels as well, so you can plug directly your PSA-1 into it, or use the line inputs on the back, wich are dedicated to this kind of gear, using the front ones to plug your guitar without PSA. The DI boxe delivers a mic level instead of anything you plug into it, so, you don't need one!
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I'm looking into it right now and this looks like solid set-up. The one I made for myself is far more simple. Did you apply that distortion to clean guitar when you were recording? 
